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    خلط الأوراق في اتهام الجمعية المصرية الإسلامية بموالاة حكومة مصر
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    سبب الدعوة هو التواصل مع الإخوة المسيحيين في أستراليا للإعلان عن رفضنا للإدعاءات المنتشرة بالتمييز ضد المسيحيين في مصر. ومن هنا كانت الدعوة على الغذاء لمجموعة من المخلصين المسيحيين المصريين الراغبين في العمل مع المسلمين المصريين بدون كراهية لتعميق العمل

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    لسلوكها تجاة العدوان على غزة

    إستنكر المهندس شوقي الحجار دعوة الجمعية الإسلامية المصرية للقنصل العام المصري وأفراد من السفارة ومصريين آخرين للعذاء متهما رئيس الجمعية محمد حلمي ومجلس إدارتها بمولاة الحكومة المصرية ومساندتها على سلوكها المرفوض شعبيا تجاه العدوان على غزة. ويرى المهندس المهندس شوقي الحجار أن هذه الدعوة على الغذاء تعتبر بمثابة بطاقة بيضاء يعطيه مسلموا أستراليا المصريين لحكومة مصر للإستمرار في فعل ما يفعلونه من جرائم.

    وقد أوضح المهندس محمد هلال سكرتير الجمعية المصرية الإسلامية عدم صحة هذه الإدعاءات وأشار إلى ضرورة التواصل مع مصر حتى وإن حكمها أسوء الناس ولا يجب علينا أن نقاطع مصر لأن حكومتها سيئه. وعلينا أن نوثق صلاتنا بمصر ونشارك في حل مشاكلها من خلال فعالياتنا كجمعية في أستراليا. وفي هذا السياق فقد أوضح المهندس محمد هلال أن سبب الدعوة هو التواصل مع الإخوة المسيحيين في أستراليا للإعلان عن رفضنا للإدعاءات المنتشرة بالتمييز ضد المسيحيين في مصر. ومن هنا كانت الدعوة على الغذاء لمجموعة من المخلصين المسيحيين المصريين الراغبين في العمل مع المسلمين المصريين بدون كراهية لتعميق العمل المشترك في الكثير من القضايا المصرية مثل حرية الإعلام والتعليم والتنمية وغير ذالك من القضايا الحرجة التى تواجة الشعب المصري. وقد كان هذا هو الموضوع المطروح للمناقشة خلال الغذاء الذي تم دعوة القنصل العام وبعض الأفراد الآخرين من القنصلية. وأشار المهندس محمد هلال في رسالته إلى جميع أعضاء الجمعية المصرية الإسلامية إلى موقف الجمعية إزاء العدوان الهمجي على غزة ومناصرة الشعب الفلسطيني في غزة وشعورهم بالعار وخيبة الأمل إزاء موقف الحكومة المصرية من العدوان على غزة.



    Asslamu Alaikum Brothers and Sisters (members of the Islamic Egyptian Society)
     
    The email below came to me (from Shawky Elhagar) and I just read it tonight (Friday) and also the attached email from "M abdelghany"
     
    It is amazing to see people try to take the position of righteous Muslims while using language that has nothing to do with the character of a Muslim.  They spread lies without knowing the truth or even trying to know the truth before accusing honest, sincere and hard working Muslims that truly serve the community.
     
    It is amazing that the two brothers sending these emails could not contact us to enquire about the truth while they know us personally and they know our track record in serving the community.  They have our phone numbers and they did not bother calling us to find the truth and elected to send insults and lies. Is this the character of a good Muslim?
     
    YES WE HAVE Invited the consul General of Egypt, members of the consulate, members of the commercial consulate plus members of the Christian Egyptian community for a dinner at an Egyptian restaurant on Thursday night.
     
    It was a collective decision from the executive committee and not from brother Helmy alone and NOT "recommended from the consulate" as mentioned by Shawky Elhagar.
     
    Let me make some points clear to those ill-informed and good for talking only and do nothing people:

        * Brother Mohamed Helmy is one of the very few Egyptian Muslims that work very hard taking time from his family and social life to serve the Egyptian Muslim community. I don't want to count the many things that he has done because his reward is from Allah SWT.
          In short you need many sincere and hardworking people like brother Helmy to keep the society offering the many services that we currently offer which benefited many members and temporary resident Egyptians.
        * Brother Helmy and myself were involved from the beginning of the Gaza massacre with the group that is organising the demonstrations, the prayer at the park, and many other things giving our nights in meetings to find the best ways to support Gaza.
        * We have presented our disappointment  and feeling of shame about the stand of the Egyptian government in public by letters and private by face to face representation and in public again during the dinner and front of all those present. We demanded that our views be transferred to the government of Egypt as the views of the majority of Egyptians in Australia.
        * We have presented our views to the Australian government in regards top Gaza without fear, exercising our democratic right and received replies.
        * The executive committee passed resolution to donate thousands of dollars to Gaza appeals and the donations has been sent already.
        * The Islamic Egyptian Society truly represent the majority of the sincere and true Egyptian Muslims. like it or not. There are no other organisations that is doing anything.
        * Our committee is always approachable and always asking for people to come and help in serving the community but no one want to do any work. Unfortunately we have many people that criticise anything we do without even trying to find the truth or offering any help.
        * I can list many other points but, may be another time ...................

    Does brother Shawky Elhagar expect us to boycott Egypt because of its bad government?
    If so, is he going to lead the boycott and stop importing goods from Egypt?
     
    As a person I (Mohammed Helal) will never boycott Egypt even if it is governed by the worst people on earth. To the contrary, I will try to enhance my connections to Masr, our beloved home land, that we must never forget or distance ourselves from.
    I am sure that brother Helmy and the rest of our executive committee members and many many members of our community share this with me.
     
    The Society has always and for many years kept good relations with the Consulate General of Egypt irrespective of disagreement with the Egyptian Government policies.  
    This good relations, that was kept and enhanced by all previous presidents of the Society (fro more than 30 years), has served the community well by representing the needs of the community in the strongest possible way and fulfilled many services to many members of the Egyptian community through this good relations.
     
    Egypt is currently in a new phase of unrest because of the claims and counter claims of discrimination against Christians and the rise of incidents that are presented as a hidden war between Muslims and Christians.
    We found a group of sincere Egyptian Christians that are willing to work together to show people inside and outside Egypt that Muslims and Christians can work together without hatred and offer common services to our people in Egypt. A common purpose was highlighted which is being critical of the Egyptian government stand in many aspects such as education, freedom for the media, development, etc. This was a topic of discussion during the dinner.
     
    At the end, we did not go for dinner to have fun and eat, it was a dinner with an important purpose.  This was our intention.
     
    Our intention, brother Helmy and the executive committee, is always to do what we do for one purpose only, that is to please Allah SWT not anyone one else.
    May Allah reward us on our intentions and forgive our faults which are many.
     
    Wasslamu Alaikum
    Mohammed Helal
    Secretary of the Islamic Egyptian Society.
     
    Note:
    I will not go into debate on this matter, this is the only email relating to this issue.  If anyone has any concerns, make an effort and come to the Society's meetings.
     
     
     
    From: Shawky ElHgar [mailto:hajjartrade@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2009 11:06 PM
    To: mohamed helal
    Cc: Sayed Kandil; crstafa h.; icebrink@optusnet.com.au
    Subject: invitation

    An invitation for diner from Mr. Mohamed Helmy the chairman who presenting the Egyptian Muslim in Sydney.

    The invitation for The Egyptian consul at Sydney and the gests has been recommended from the consulate.

    This invitation at that time makes me ask some equations.

    What is the actual reason behind this diner?

    Is it support for the Egyptian position in GAZA question?

    Is it white card for the Egyptian Government to do what they are doing?

    The Egyptians are not stupid

    Who is going to pay for this dinner is he the Mr. Chairman or the Egyptian Moslem in Sydney?

    Are the Moslem community know about that

    I do not think so.

    What is going on, our Muslim leaders say and email something but they do something else.

    I hope that Mr. Helmy review this position and I ask to come back to the man stream opinion of all Moslem

    Or he has to resign.

     
    ENG. SHAWKY EL HGAR


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    Subject:
    Re: invitation
    From:
    <icebrink@optusnet.com.au>
    Date:
    Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:04:12 +1100
    To:
    "Shawky ElHgar" <hajjartrade@yahoo.com>
    CC:
    "mohamed helal" <mahelal@ozemail.com.au>, "Sayed Kandil" <sayedkandil@optusnet.com.au>, "crstafa h ." <fivemause@gmail.com>, <icebrink@optusnet.com.au>

    Alsalamualikoum All
    I am realy pleased for your comments mr Hajjar.
    And also my question is:
    there is many group of the muslim community around australia, and all this
    group is only presnting 2or 3 or 10 people at meximum, why every one of this
    group he sought he presinting the openuin of all the muslim or the egyptian
    community in australia?
    Also if this many invitation we recived inlast weeks just licking asses of
    people allready they know we can not gongrated every thing is been done
    during the holecost of gazza.
    and also this people they sending this invitation is not in contact with the
    egyptian muslem community in australia and you can not get in tuch with them
    if there is any issue you would like to descussed!!!!!
    hasbia allahu wa nema alwakeel.
    regards
    M abdelghany



    > > Shawky ElHgar <hajjartrade@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > An invitation for diner from Mr. Mohamed Helmy the chairman who
    > > presenting the Egyptian Muslim in Sydney.
    > > The invitation for The Egyptian consul at Sydney and the gests has been
    > > recommended from the consulate.
    > > This invitation at that time makes me ask some equations.
    > > What is the actual reason behind this diner?
    > > Is it support for the Egyptian position in GAZA question?
    > > Is it white card for the Egyptian Government to do what they are doing?
    > > The Egyptians are not stupid
    > > Who is going to pay for this dinner is he the Mr. Chairman or the
    > > Egyptian Moslem in Sydney?
    > > Are the Moslem community know about that
    > > I do not think so.
    > > What is going on, our Muslim leaders say and email something but they do
    > > something else.
    > > I hope that Mr. Helmy review this position and I ask to come back to the
    > > man stream opinion of all Moslem
    > > Or he has to resign.
    > >  ENG. SHAWKY EL HGAR


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